Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxn!rlr From: rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: test for Jewishness Message-ID: <868@pyuxn.UUCP> Date: Tue, 17-Jul-84 15:42:39 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxn.868 Posted: Tue Jul 17 15:42:39 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Jul-84 03:17:51 EDT References: <322@houxb.UUCP> <648@ihuxt.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway N.J. Lines: 19 >>Test for Jewishness = Eligibility for the concentration camps > This statement is a rather negative definition of Jewishness and gives no > reason for pride in Jewishness. > Yehoyaqim Shemtob Martillo Exactly. The point being: why let other people define who YOU are? Am I a Jew when Martillo has deemed it so? When Nazis have deemed it so? Am I a Jew because you say I am? Do I have some obligations imposed on me because someone else has stated that I am a member of some group without my input or consideration? I don't take statements like "You have to do it for your race/religion/family." very seriously. Since, so often, such externally imposed obligations are used as a propagandistic tool to rile you up to fight a bloody conflict for something you have no part in and don't even believe in. -- Now I've lost my train of thought. I'll have to catch the bus of thought. Rich Rosen pyuxn!rlr