Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!amd!decwrl!decvax!genrad!wjh12!harvard!seismo!rlgvax!cvl!umcp-cs!flink From: flink@umcp-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.sci,net.misc Subject: Nice try yourself, Mr. Moffet Message-ID: <7745@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 4-Jul-84 17:12:17 EDT Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.7745 Posted: Wed Jul 4 17:12:17 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Jul-84 05:54:46 EDT Distribution: net Organization: Univ. of Maryland, Computer Science Dept. Lines: 23 From Gordon A. Moffet (proper!gam) Here is a free bonus: I've said that there is no mind because its existence has not be measured ... And I suppose there are no planets around any stars further than 100 light-years, because *their* existence has not been measured? Nonexistent until proven otherwise? Are concepts guilty until proven innocent? I don't know anything about the Aristotle-vs-Leucippus debate, but perhaps the point of the person who brought it up, was that lack of proof is inadequate grounds to discard a hypothesis entirely. If that was his point, he was right. Two cheers to Kenn Barry for his contribution. The idea that we do not observe minds is rubbish. Each person observes her own. I think the misgivings expressed by the behaviorist sympathizers about "mind" come from overloading the term with connotations that they don't like. They falsely assume that "mind" implies "nonphysical", "soul", etc. When you stack the deck, it is no wonder your opponent loses. --The aspiring iconoclast, Paul Torek, umcp-cs!flink