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From: joy@mit-vax.UUCP (Joy Hoppe)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: Insecure Women
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Date: Mon, 25-Jun-84 14:23:32 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jun 25 14:23:32 1984
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THE kiss of death (insecure women) AND Are BEAUTIFUL women insecure?

Thanks, oh Chuq, for telling them.  I've always believed that beauty is
in the eye of the beholder.  All this rumbling and grumbling about jerks
and nice guys is getting (?) stupid.

I detect more than a little bit of jealousy on the part of those who don't
go out with the "beautiful" women.  My boyfriend and I were friends for
over 2 years before we started dating, so being a nice guy is NOT the
"kiss of death" for a man interested in a particular female.  Strangely,
a male friend of mine constantly tries to convince me that my SO's a jerk
and not good enough for me.  Whatever that means....  His main problem
(the male friend) is that he had a crush on me which never went away, and
still wishes he were in my SO's place.  Sour grapes, that's all.

And to those women who call themselves dogs.  Fie, I say!  No woman is
a dog -- it's been medically proven!  Just because I'm not 5'8", blonde,
and weigh less than Twiggy doesn't make me a Schnauzer.  Those guys who
just look at a the shell of a woman are stupid.  They are missing lots
of wonderful people.

As for insecure women.  Dating someone who is labeled a "jerk" by someone
else is not a sign of insecurity on the woman's part.  I've noticed that
women tend not to look too much at the shell of a man, but at his character;
his soul, if you will.  I have never wanted to date someone for his pec's.
Nor will I ever want to.

When a man labels another man a "jerk" it's usually because HE'S insecure
about not being able to attract the attention of the (supposedly) "beautiful"
woman. Calling the other guy a jerk serves to salve the ego; it's suddenly HER 
fault somehow-- something MUST be wrong with her if she dates "jerks."  Just 
because someone dates someone YOU don't like doesn't make her defective or him 
a jerk.

----The following lines are a flame [my apologies to the rest of you]----

The people who believe the "jerk" vs. "nice guy" and "beautiful woman"
garbage are pretty dense.  In fact, you probably don't even know what
motivates your own emotions, let alone someone else's.  You have no right
to judge someone else's relationship- nobody but those involved have
the right to do that!

If you want to know why people don't date you, go into counseling.
Chances are pretty good that you have some problems (Why not?  Most
everybody does!) which could be helped by talking them out with a
professional.



					joy

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