Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!cca!ima!ism780!judy From: judy@ism780.UUCP Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Re: THE kiss of death (insecure wome - (nf) Message-ID: <276@ism780.UUCP> Date: Sat, 30-Jun-84 00:10:06 EDT Article-I.D.: ism780.276 Posted: Sat Jun 30 00:10:06 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Jul-84 00:31:38 EDT Lines: 38 #R:gatech:-831000:ism780:13000007:000:1882 ism780!judy Jun 28 14:47:00 1984 Why is being a "nice" guy the kiss of death? Unfortunately in our society we are taught to let ourselves be trampled on all in the name of "being nice". Why? So people will like you. Everyone likes a nice person. Shoot, why not. Nice people will do anything you want them to. You can treat them like dogs and they will come back wagging their tails. I use the word "doormat" as a synonym for "nice" when referring to a person. And I suffer from doormatitis myself. But what happens to the woman on the other side of the nice guy. She starts feeling like a real sh*t. The one "nice" guy I dated made me feel like the queen bitch. We went wherever I wanted to to go. We had sex when and where I wanted to. The relationship was anything I wanted. And like too much candy, it made me sick. My undisciplined self treated him like dirt because he put up with it. In fact, I don't think I even had the decency to break up with him. I just wandered off and he never demanded (nice people never demand) even an explanation. What I have now is a true sweetheart, but no one would accuse him of being nice. He is, instead, opinionated, obstinate, and great fun. He doesn't put up with sh*t in his life and neither do I. We have good, healthy fights when we disagree (or sometimes when we're just both in bad moods). And when he does something wonderful for me I appreciate it all the more because I know he didn't feel obligated. The reaction you are getting from women when you don't shave should give you another clue. Heterosexual women usually (at least I do) lust after virile men. Not only is a little stubble virile (and sexy) but so are great pectorals, a good ass, chest hair, etc. Now lust does not a relationship make, but it is a good place to start. But virile men have more than physical attributes. They also have a back bone. Nice men often don't.