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From: saquigley@watmath.UUCP (Sophie Quigley)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: Happy as a homosexual
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Date: Sun, 1-Jul-84 13:44:47 EDT
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Posted: Sun Jul  1 13:44:47 1984
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Judging form the mail I am getting, it seems that I have been misunderstood in
my defense of trish.  I was not defending her point of view that "all men are.."
but her reaction to her perception of the world around her which I thought
was an extremely well-adjusted one.  If you think people around you are creeps
then make friends with other people.   I also thought that after having made
that decision, she was probably happier than she was before when she was with
people she disliked.  This is why I objected to people labelling her unhappy
and not well-adjusted without knowing her.  Of course I don't know her either,
so I could be just as wrong and she could be unhappy and/or not well-adjusted.

Like it or not, some people just do not fit in the culture that surrounds them,
but are not the missionary type that will go change culture to fit them.
The only options for those people is to force themselves to change and be 
miserable, run away from their culture into another one which suits them better,
or create their own subworld (as in subset, not as in subhuman) with other
people like them, in which they can be happy.

Now, while I do not share Trish's opinion of men in general, I think it might
very well be possible that there is something about most men around her that
trish doesn't like, or even about most men.  It is not easy to know whether it
is a cultural thing or not.  And even that qualification doesn't make sense as
there have been different male and female cultures that have grown in parallel.
It is not obvious which is "better" than the other.  There are many different
culturea around us, and some suit some people but not others.  I know that
there are certain subgroups of men, women, or people that I do not like (they
will remain nameless).  I just do not see what is wrong with not liking every-
body.  Maybe it is wrong to proclaim on a medium such as the net that certain
people are this and that way, because it is offensive and I can understand why
people might be offended by such statements which label them as being something
they are not.  What I do not understand on the other hand is why some people are
so offended by the fact that there are other people who dislike them and who
attack those who dislike them on the basis that they dislike them rather than
because they have done something wrong (like attacking them with insults for
example).

Sophie Quigley
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