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From: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach)
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Subject: Re: Experiential Processes
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Date: Sat, 7-Jul-84 05:03:32 EDT
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I think I have to agree with Moira on this one. While I might personally
not agree the concepts spouted by Lifesprint or EST, and while I might not
enjoy the company of the people who have gone through them (my experience
with 99.9% of EST grads is that they are now obnoxious boors with superegos
where their brains used to be) but their techniques are safe when applied
properly. There have been cases where problems have occured (in at least
one case a man died of a heart attack in an EST class because the
instructor wouldn't let anyone go for help-- I think he thought
intimidation would stop the damage or something) but they are significant
minority cases. They DO help people who have self-image problems get a
better handle on asserting themselves. Most of the techniques they use are
straight out of our dear friend B.F.Skinner. There is nothing that these
classes teach you you can't find elsewhere (such as within yourself, for
example). It is just a matter of how hard you want to look versus how much
you want to pay...

chuq

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