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From: saquigley@watmath.UUCP (Sophie Quigley)
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Subject: Trish's ORIGINAL statement
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Date: Tue, 10-Jul-84 13:31:02 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jul 10 13:31:02 1984
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From Greg Skinner:

>      I personally chose to be gay because I think most straight men are your
> egotistical, chauvanist, insensitive, macho assholes, who treat women like
> they're here on this earth to serve them.  Of course there is that 1 in 1000
> who is just perfect, but why should I bother to go through the jerks just to
> get that one!!!!!  Plus a woman knows what a woman wants, and your basic
> straight man could care less, just so long as he gets what he wants.  So you
> see Jeff, there are other reason to being gay.  And I don't need to be cured,
> cause I don't have a problem and I'm not sick.  I'm a happy lesbian,
> who would have it no other way --- thank you.

>   Trish Millines

Thanks Greg for reposting Trish's original article.  Your point about her
usage of "I think" is a very important one and one that people debating
Trish's bigotry have overlooked.  In all the quotes of her made so far by other
people scandalised by her statements, the "I think" part had been deleted.

That is very interesting.  I could not remember why Trish's article had not
offended me at first, but had offended me after people quoted her, but now
I know, she was quoted completely out of context!

To repeat my point in case it is not obvious by now: saying "I think that
most men are...." is not the same as saying that "most men are.....".
The first is an expression of one's perceptions, the second is a blanket
statement about a group of people, pretending to be objective.  The second
is bigoted, but the first one isn't simply because the person making it
recognises the subjectivity of her opinion.

So it now seems that Trish's crime was not bigotry (i.e defamation) but a
"thought-crime".  Putting this whole thing in perspective now, I am horrified
not by what Trish said, but by the attacks that have been made on her because
she has dared thinking "wrong".  This is serious folks, I think that all
of you who have been so quick to jump on her for her "bigotry" should really
start to take a good look at your own attitudes and your own intolerance of
others' right to their own thoughts and opinions.  Beware of accepting the
idea of "incorrect thinking", it is such attitudes that have waged crusades
and witch-hunts in the past (and present).

Other moral of the story: never trust quotes out of context.

Sophie Quigley
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