Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ut-ngp.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!wjh12!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!judy From: judy@ut-ngp.UUCP (Judith O. Ashworth) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: stop already! Message-ID: <732@ut-ngp.UUCP> Date: Tue, 10-Jul-84 17:13:28 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-ngp.732 Posted: Tue Jul 10 17:13:28 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 12-Jul-84 01:24:13 EDT Organization: Comp. Center, Univ. of Texas at Austin Lines: 50 Wow! I stay away from the net for a week and net.singles goes bonkers! I have refrained from reading the postings conserning homosexuality for the following reasons: 1) It doesn't belong on net.singles. Remember the big to-do about religious discussions here? Well the same argument applies to this. 2) I have no desire to dignify the arguments of those who feel it necessary to condemn that segment of the population - for whatever reason - by reading them. 3) I have no reason to read articles that justify this very personal choice, since it is not a choice I could or would ever make and I'm not the least bit interested in why someone else would choose this path. I simply accept that they do. They certainly don't need to justify themselves to ME. 4) If I WERE interested in this subject I would read net.MOTSS, which I don't. However, since I have been unable to avoid all such references and because I wish to sooth the bruised feelings of some of the men out on the net, I shall enter my support. It is my personal belief that people respond with varying degrees of openness in ANY relationship. It is all a matter of getting through the manure. With some, the manure is deeper than with others, and sometimes *I* lack the right shovel (what an analogy THAT turned out to be!). However, although I sometimes fail terribly in my attempt to reach a person, I none the less feel that EVERYONE is capable of feeling/caring/hurting and being hurt. I PREFER the company and friendship of MEN over that of women. Why? I guess it's because I'm uncomfortable with the feeling of competition most single women project.(Some MARRIED ones, too!) It really makes me feel weird when a women is so insecure that if I wear a white skirt to dinner - she has to wear a white skirt (this has actually happened!), or she compares her weight, tan, bust, even knowledge to mine! (Please note that I make a distinction between intelligence and knowledge that many people do not.) I especially find one-upmanship distasteful. I just can't feel close to someone from whom I get vibs of envy/jealousy. And it's not that I'm some beauty that would inspire such feelings (oh, men find me attactive, I've got a good figure - but a big nose!). Anyway, *I* have found most men quite capable of being sensitive, kind, warm. Few men though, are really in touch with their feelings, some are even scared by them. It's not their fault; society has pushed roles on men as much as on women, maybe more, but men's liberation has progressed at a much slower pace. I believe this is why some men have no trouble relating to a female friend, but the moment that sex is introduced to the situation, they have trouble coping. It's almost like Dr.Jekyll and Mr. Hyde! Perhaps the same could be said about women? It's not chauvinistic to be chivalrous! Judy (ut-ngp!judy)