Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site allegra.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!alan From: alan@allegra.UUCP (Alan S. Driscoll) Newsgroups: net.singles,net.women Subject: Re: Just when you think you've turned off the faucet... Message-ID: <2604@allegra.UUCP> Date: Sat, 14-Jul-84 01:15:44 EDT Article-I.D.: allegra.2604 Posted: Sat Jul 14 01:15:44 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Jul-84 01:37:10 EDT References: <3790@fortune.UUCP> <2598@allegra.UUCP>, <856@pyuxn.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 28 > Lest I give you the impression that Alan Driscoll was alone in this, there > were others who also supported his point of view. And that's the point. > It's easy to ignore the effect that one's seemingly natural (but probably > learned---and difficult to unlearn) behaviors have on other people. I > just thought Alan (and Greg and Dick et al) would have avoided that pitfall. Rich, I think your interpretation of me (and Greg and Dick) is quite unfair. You assume we are "macho assholes" who are too insensitive to know how our behavior effects women. Well, I consider myself a "liberated man." I don't think the traditional male role works to the benefit of men or women. Ditto for the traditional female role. That's one of the reasons I rejected those roles years ago. I think Greg and Dick are saying they did too. Trish has decided the traditional role is not for her. Great! I support that decision. But instead of encouraging and supporting men who have made the same decision, she lumps us into one heap, and writes us all off. That sucks. > "Submitted for your approval..." Rich Rosen pyuxn!rlr "Disapproved." -- Alan ("I Even Cook") Driscoll AT&T Bell Laboratories