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From: gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner)
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Subject: Re: Happy as a homosexual
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Date: Sat, 14-Jul-84 11:58:42 EDT
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Posted: Sat Jul 14 11:58:42 1984
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> watmath!saquigley:
> Not well-adjusted to what?  to the way men around her have acted?
> What do you consider to be a good way to adjust to such a situation?
> hang around with the jerks, taking dirt from them hoping that they
> change their ways?  that sounds very masochistic to me.
> To me turning into a lesbian seems to be the most intelligent way
> to adjust to this situation without insisting that men she knows change.
> It seems to me that her attitude is "I don't want this shit, but
> you seem to want it so I won't have anything to do with it or you".
> If I was surrounded by men who are jerks and women who are nice,
> I'd do the same.  Fortunately for me I am surrounded by men and 
> women who are nice, so I can basically choose to do what I want.
> And probably fortunately for you you are in the same situation.

It seems to me rather than torture herself with men who she considers to
be jerks, she might try to meet other men.  I don't consider inability
to find someone you like a good reason to become gay, perhaps people
with that problem are looking for their SO in the wrong places.

> Maybe she is unhappy maybe she isn't, who knows?  we certainly don't
> from the little we know of her, but from what she wrote, there is
> one thing we know for sure: she'd be even more unhappy if she was to
> choose to have men lovers instead of women.  So what are you saying
> exactly?  that her behaviour doesn't fit in your view of happiness?
> tough!  there is not ONE WAY to be happy.  I personnally don't like
> having to avoid a whole class of people in order to be happy, but
> if that's what makes her happy, who are you to tell her that she isn't?

Like I said above, I'm not convinced that she'd be unhappy if she was to
have male lovers instead of female -- I rather think that she'd be happy
if she was to find a male lover who she could get along with.  I forgot
who wrote this (Trish?) but would you care to comment?  Of the few gay
people I know, none of them became gay because they thought the opposite
sex were jerks:  they just found they could express their feelings
better with a member of the same sex.

Yow!  Are we psychologists yet?
-- 
Those who know me have no need for my name.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
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