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From: welsch@houxu.UUCP (Larry Welsch)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Some news for Trish
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Date: Sun, 15-Jul-84 09:35:41 EDT
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Posted: Sun Jul 15 09:35:41 1984
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I don't know where Trish has been making her observations, but it has been
my experience that the "average man" is not at all like what Trish
describes.

1. Most men don't "date" women. Most men go out with women to have a good
time and enjoy the company of another person.  Sometimes, but not
necessarily that enjoyment includes sexual activity.  

2.  Most men treat women with respect.

3.  Most men are very concerned about how "good" sexual activity is for
their partner and are not just concerned about themselves.  However, for
most men sex is just a part of their lives and hardly an all consuming
drive.

4.  Most men view their SO's as help mates, not as burdens.

5.  Most men are not macho.

6.  Most men admit to their friends that they are sensitive.  I suspect
that women are much less sensitive than men about most matters.  Men tend
to be much more idealistic than women.

7.  Don't know anyone who "lost his freedom" or who talks that way.

8.  Never knew any man who claimed he had the "right" to have an affair.

9.  Love is blind.  Most men think they have the prettiest SO around, but
that hardly means they don't think they have the most intelligent, most
sensitive, ... SO around.  

10.  On the other hand most men don't keep their SO's locked in closets,
but display pictures of them on their desks, and introduce them to each
other, because they are proud to have such a wonderful person care about
them.

11. Most men do admit and are sensitive, warm and caring.  However, there
are just so many things one can be sensitive, warm and caring about.  For
men one's SO and family come first.

12. Men generally say women are hard to understand and fickle, for the
same reasons women say men are hard to understand and fickle.  

13. Men generally spend a lot on a woman to let the woman know they think
a lot of her.

14.  Most men have perfectly adequate control of their glands.

I'd like to know when will some women:

1. Not date a man just because he has money.

2. Treat men as more than just meal tickets.

3. Realize that there is more to sexuality than just jerking a man off.

4. Stop talking about her SO like all he's good for is support.

5. Decide there's more to life than talking about her partner's lack of
sexual prowess.

6. Start admitting to her friends that there is more to life than living
her life through her SO.

7. Stop talking about hooking a man.

8. Stop blaming her frigidity on others.

9. Stop thinking she must have the most successful SO around and prove
it with furs and diamond rings.

10. Doesn't parade her SO around like all he is a good meal ticket.

11. Admit that her SO is more than a hunk.

12. Stop saying that men are hard to understand.

13. Stop thinking that a man owes her an expensive gift for a sex.

14. Stop thinking that men are turned on by promises with no
deliveries.

Now I don't think the "mythical average" woman is like this, but I have
certainly met some women who are.

One final note Trish, I think its great that you are a lesbian, but you
are fooling yourself if you think it has anything to do with others.
Others don't make you do anything, only you do.  So quit blaming men and
enjoy your sexuality.


						Larry Welsch
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