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From: edhall@randvax.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Clearing it all up
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Date: Sun, 15-Jul-84 21:51:24 EDT
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I certainly don't plead guilty to this one.  Trish has brilliantly
nailed down the macho stereotype.  And I'd be a fool to claim that a
majority of men don't follow it at one time or another.  But there
are many men, myself included, who are searching for a better way
and who, with the help of women on a similar search, are finding it.

And I think that writing men off as irreformable boors is just as
stupid as writing women off as second-rate human beings.  The
respect, affection, and trust Trish says men refuse to give women
are all mutual things, things that people do *with* each other, and
not *to* each other.  Either side can say ``no''.  Yes, she is right
that some men (most at one time or another) refuse to grant women
respect, affection, or trust.  Her response?  Refuse to grant (999
out of 1000) men respect, affection, or trust.  And refuse to
acknowledge that those men are capable of giving them.

I've just one question.  Is this an attitude that leads to progress
for humanity--women and men?

People don't change unless they have the room to change in.

		-Ed Hall
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