Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site tektronix.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!moiram From: moiram@tektronix.UUCP (Moira Mallison ) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: experiential processes: a survey Message-ID: <3095@tektronix.UUCP> Date: Mon, 16-Jul-84 13:55:42 EDT Article-I.D.: tektroni.3095 Posted: Mon Jul 16 13:55:42 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 17-Jul-84 06:42:45 EDT Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 38 >:< Mallison >> Dunn >:< 2. Ex-cult members, when they have been de-programmed, see the error >:< of their ways...Most EP participants do not regret the time or money >:< invested in the EP. >> I wish there were some way to examine this. I suspect that many >> participants eventually come to feel that they wasted some time, but not a >> lot, and that most of the money was wasted - but how many feel this way >> probably depends a lot on the group. Most of the (small number of) people >> I've talked to about EST, for example, feel that they got something out of >> it - but mostly what they learned was how people get manipulated, because >> they felt manipulated by the training and aren't having any more of it. Well, Dick. I stand by my original statement on the subject: my experience with regard to this discussion (and personal mail) is that the positives are coming from the folks who have done it and the negatives are coming from the folks who haven't. So how 'bout it, netland? I'm willing to conduct the survey of net people who have attended one of these human potential trainings/ experiential processes. Some questions: 1. What training/workshop did you attend? When? How much? 2. What was your initial response to the experience (ie after it was complete) 3. What is your response to it now (worth the time and money?) 4. Any other comments you may have on the whole subject. I'll post a summary to the net, so let me know if you want to stay in the closet. Note: those who have not attended a workshop of this type may reply to dev/null. Moira Mallison tektronix!moiram "The truth of the matter is, I haven't got a clue"