Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-amber!chabot From: chabot@amber.DEC (Lisa S. Chabot) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Clearing it all up Message-ID: <2653@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 17-Jul-84 19:31:32 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.2653 Posted: Tue Jul 17 19:31:32 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Jul-84 07:03:32 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 57 teldata!ted = > > 8. Women should realize that men have affairs with no more emotional > involvement than masturbating and the lasting emotional effects on him are > no greater than wacking it off in the bathroom. Is this statement supposed to make anyone feel better? Men have affairs with little emotional involvement--this certainly doesn't reassure women, for just what sorts of beings are these men having affairs with? Women, in many cases. Well, this statement certainly isn't going to make the woman who's the other party in this affair (especially not in those cases where something on the order of "I'm going to get a divorce" is either stated or implied). Men, then are the other parties in these affairs? Well, that certainly makes me feel safer, but then, I'm more than a little concerned for homosexual friends who may have the misfortune to fall for a married man on the prowl for something warmer than the bathroom. So if we leave out adult humans of both sexes, then what are we left with? Kids? Sheep? ("...draw the line at goats." --Elton John) Or is it perhaps that the adults with whom one has affairs are trash, that don't deserve that respect which has to be earned, as was said in an earlier item. What makes them undeserving of respect--that they'll fool around for a married man? In this case, what about married women who have affairs? >GASP< I wonder, it is it just as expected that a married woman has as little respect for the adults she has affairs with? Or, perhaps, are we back to an expectation that any woman who fools around is trash? (-: and if one is the former police chief of LA, Ed Davis, any woman working out of the home is fooling around and contributing to the destruction of society and to juvenile crime -- hey, I'm not saying anybody here is like that, ok :-) :-( Good, good, good. :-( You just *can't* know how relieved I am to know that, according to teldata!ted, men have affairs in which they do not show the other party in the affair the minimal respect displayed by involving their emotions. :-( Oh, really, emotions are involved, but mostly just those of pride. Whacking off only gives you the satisfaction that you know what to do to _yourself_ to get the good reaction. Having an affair does more for the pride, for not only do you get sex, which admittedly, you can always do on your own, and not only can you feel proud that you know what it takes to push someone else's buttons to get the good reaction, but you get SOMEONE ELSE to think you're attractive, or sexy, or, horrors, from the picture that teldata!ted has given us, you might get someone else to _like_ you. What a terrible thing that is to do to the other person in the affair, to get them to like the married man who, in his own estimate, is frankly just beating off and who's an egotistical creep. :-( No, I don't like to think of men in this way. I don't like to think of women in the same role. And I don't want to either. At least, not...anyone I know... Locking myself in my room until the phantoms go away, :-( l s chabot 251 saint paul street, brookline, ma 02146 is this what these roles are for, to let us neglect our possibilities, to let us be irresponsible