Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxe.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!ihuxe!rainbow From: rainbow@ihuxe.UUCP Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: RE:Miss America Update Message-ID: <755@ihuxe.UUCP> Date: Wed, 25-Jul-84 19:00:46 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxe.755 Posted: Wed Jul 25 19:00:46 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Jul-84 06:21:27 EDT Sender: rainbow@ihuxe.UUCP Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 49 >> San Francisco Chronicle..... >> Guccione's (Penthouse magazine) lawyer: >> "The public ought to know that she's not really Little Miss Muffet" >> Guccione: >> "I think its a mistake that she elected not to fight for her crown" >From what I can see, Guccione and his lawyer have opposing views as far as >whether what Venessa did was right or wrong. So she's supposed to fight and >win.....? Makes me wonder the reason behind publishing those photos!!! I read both quotes and summed them up in one sentence each as I understood them. They say two different things and certainly dont contradict. And neither one said anything about right or wrong. No one can by the way. At the time Venessa must have thought she was doing the right thing. It was her choice. No problem. If she later decides it was wrong, well that would mean she made a mistake(even if she didnt fully understand the ramnifications and consequences). In any case, right and wrong is an opinion each of us can make. Its unfortunate though that a majority opinion(the pageant) about whats right can be forced upon another after the fact. The main issue as I see it is, did the pageant make it clear that such previous actions would result in disqualification? Where is it stated what virtues a contestant must possess? I have seen nothing to that extent. Everything seems to be implied about the image thats suppose to be presented. The answers to these questions will clear up in my mind whether the pageant was right or wrong. If the pageant clearly laid down the conditions, well then Venessa has no recourse for she knew full well the rules beforehand. Otherwise, Venessa is entitled to her crown. Of course sometimes there is a very narrow line on specific cases, but thats how lawyers get rich in determining which side of the line we're on. And any rules can always be challenged beforehand. What I really disapprove of is the liberties the press takes in presenting stories. Anything goes when they have a scoop. One persons gain is anothers loss. No regard for who gets hurt in the process. Increase circulation is the motivating factor. Profit is the result. I really think the press abuses their privalege of free speech. There are absolutely no restrictions on them. But thats the way our society wants it. They encourage and support such behavior even if its only indirectly(buying issues). However I have difficulty sympathizing with her for her lack of foresight even though she paid a heavy price. Robert.