Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site opus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxz!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hao!cires!nbires!opus!rcd From: rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: To Breed or Not to Breed - Part I Message-ID: <644@opus.UUCP> Date: Thu, 26-Jul-84 04:00:21 EDT Article-I.D.: opus.644 Posted: Thu Jul 26 04:00:21 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Jul-84 10:25:55 EDT References: <3185@tektronix.UUCP> Organization: NBI, Boulder Lines: 28 On the question of a "woman who decides that she wants to get preg- nant and is not involved in an ongoing relationship with a man." I confine my comments to one of the three possible approaches given: > 3. A non-arrangement with a male friend (*SEDUCTION*). >... > Issues: Is there something morally/ethically wrong with > not being honest about wanting to get pregnant? > If the male is willing to be seduced, at what point > does the sperm cease to be a gift and becomes some- > thing which is taken from him unwittingly? I think you can answer this one easily by trying various analogies. As Moira points out, it IS seduction. It's "using" a man, in a pretty depersonalized sense, for the woman to achieve a goal which is purely her own; in fact, she's denying the man any opportunity to participate. Would any woman who has been "fast-talked" or "coaxed" into bed against her better thoughts care to comment on the phrase "...willing to be seduced"? I think that it's a non-sequitur; it's sort of like being "...willing to be brainwashed." Shouldn't a man's thoughts about the responsibilities of creating a child be taken into account? (There are men who DON'T care, so why tromp on those who might?) -- Dick Dunn {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd (303)444-5710 x3086 ...Keep your day job 'til your night job pays.