Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utcsrgv.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!mason From: mason@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Mason) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: RE: Re: Baby bonuses are silly. Message-ID: <5109@utcsrgv.UUCP> Date: Thu, 30-Aug-84 14:05:32 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsrgv.5109 Posted: Thu Aug 30 14:05:32 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 30-Aug-84 16:24:24 EDT References: <1108@hcrvax.UUCP> Organization: University of Toronto/Ryerson Polytechnic Institute Lines: 39 I have been reading all this stuff, and feel obligated to throw in my 3 cents worth. If the country has the wealth to provide everyone with an adequate standard of living (I do NOT mean food and a hostel to sleep in, and I do NOT mean 3000 sq. ft. houses and 3 cars per family) which I would argue Canada does, the obvious approach is to pay everyone a Citizenship Salary of a reasonable level (say $10,000) in bi-weekly installments. Then any income you made over and above that would be taxed. No loopholes, no exemptions. This way we would not even need to fill in tax forms at the end of the year unless we were self-employed, because the tax we paid would be the tax we owed. This would be extremely cheap and simple to administer, as well as removing the stigma implied by the terms Welfare, UIC, or even "negative" tax. It would also save a lot of money as all those civil servants moved from making 30,000 a year to making 10,000 a year. Not that it gives them the oppurtunity and the means to decide what they can do best, and go out and provide a service that other people are willing to pay for. It also means that artists and writers can do what they want, presumably also to our general benefit. The only real administrative costs of all this are deciding who is eligible, and how much the amount should increase every year. The second part is easy to state, if not so easy to implement: The Citizen Salary should increase to match the increase in the wealth of the nation. How you measure this is probably a major problem. The first part is trickier: do you pay only citizens, landed immigrants? adults? children? Comments welcome! -- Usenet: {dalcs dciem garfield musocs qucis sask titan trigraph ubc-vision utzoo watmath allegra cornell decvax decwrl ihnp4 uw-beaver} !utcsrgv!mason Dave Mason, U. Toronto CSRG CSNET: mason@Toronto ARPA: mason%Toronto@CSNet-Relay