Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: net.politics,can.politics Subject: Re: Libertarians considered psychotic Message-ID: <4312@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Sep-84 18:53:24 EDT Article-I.D.: utzoo.4312 Posted: Wed Sep 12 18:53:24 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Sep-84 18:53:24 EDT References: <4304@utzoo.UUCP>, <1111@dciem.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 16 > > (1) Why? Let's be realistic: societies do not "have goals", > > individuals do. > > society doesn't have goals. The more you look at it, the more important > collective phenomena seem to be in what actually happens to a society. Okay, I confess, that first sentence of point (1) was a bit on the over-enthusiastic side. The rest of the paragraph still holds up well, I think. Slightly restated, the question is to what extent society's goals, which inevitably do not suit everybody, are to be allowed to run roughshod over the goals of members of the society. My position is that the preferred answer is "as little as possible". [Note again that I do do not contend that it can be reduced to zero.] -- Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry