Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site dartvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amd!decwrl!decvax!dartvax!betsy From: betsy@dartvax.UUCP (Betsy Hanes Perry) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Prohibition and Abortion Laws Message-ID: <2322@dartvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 21-Aug-84 16:47:49 EDT Article-I.D.: dartvax.2322 Posted: Tue Aug 21 16:47:49 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Aug-84 04:56:38 EDT References: <2297@dartvax.UUCP>, <3453@cbscc.UUCP> Organization: Dartmouth College Lines: 52 As several people have pointed out, I defined my major premise badly. I said 'Unenforceable or unenforced laws are bad for society.' What I meant by 'unenforceable/unenforced laws' was 'laws which do not reflect the moral consensus of the community.' Notice the word consensus here; it's important. If a man kills his wife, his neighbors will certainly disapprove. What he has done is not only illegal, but violates their common moral standard. If a man smokes marijuana, the results will not be as clear-cut. Some of his neighbors will be offended, and others will not. There isn't a moral consensus against marijuana in the United States; some do, and some don't. Similarly, Prohibition was disobeyed because most adults saw nothing immoral in their own drinking. By and large, people obey laws because the laws agree with their own feelings about right and wrong, not simply because they're laws. If a law does not jibe with the community consensus, policemen will be reluctant to arrest offenders, juries to convict, and judges to sentence them. Laws which conflict with community moral standards tend to be under- or un-enforced. The laws against theft are well-enforced: some culprits may go free, but the police investigate theft reports vigorously. Historically, the laws against abortion have not been so well-enforced. I claim that this reflects community ambivalence about the criminality of abortion. The best evidence for future disregard of an anti-abortion law is past disregard of such laws. I quote "Encyclopedia of Crime and Justice", edited by Sanford Kadish, 1983, v.1, p.4. The book says that in the mid-twentieth-century (before Roe vs. Wade), "As many as 90% of all abortions were sought by married women seeking to limit family size, and 90%-95% of all premarital pregnancies ended in abortion. ... Despite numerous statutes incriminating the abortion patient, prosecutions were exceedingly rare and reported cases indescoverable. - Model Penal code 1959, commentary section 207.11 ". On the same page, it is noted that "Physicians performed more than half of all illegal abortions." To summarize, the laws existed, but were widely ignored. What evidence is there that future laws would be any more successful? I believe that laws which enforce a minority moral code are bad for the country, and it seems clear to me that laws against first-trimester abortion would do just that: enforce a minority's moral code on the majority. Past experience with the Volstead act has shown just how futile such laws can be. Betsy Perry UUCP: {decvax|linus|cornell}!dartvax!betsy CSNET: betsy@dartmouth ARPA: betsy%dartmouth@csnet-relay -- Betsy Perry UUCP: {decvax|linus|cornell}!dartvax!betsy CSNET: betsy@dartmouth ARPA: betsy%dartmouth@csnet-relay