Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site eosp1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!eosp1!robison From: robison@eosp1.UUCP (Tobias D. Robison) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Now and Then Message-ID: <1106@eosp1.UUCP> Date: Tue, 11-Sep-84 12:27:15 EDT Article-I.D.: eosp1.1106 Posted: Tue Sep 11 12:27:15 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Sep-84 20:59:36 EDT Organization: Exxon Office Systems, Princeton, NJ Lines: 42 References: Mark Chilenskas discussion of inductive proof is not correct for mathematics, and greatly understates the strength of mathematical inductive proofs. These work as follows: Given a hypothesis; - Prove that it is true for at least one case. - Then prove that IF IT IS TRUE FOR A GENERIC CASE, IT MUST BE TRUE FOR THE NEXT GENERIC CASE. Fore example, in a hypothesis about an expression with regard to all natural numbers, we might show that it is true if "n=1". We then show that IF it is true for "n", it is true for "n+1". By induction we have shown that the hypothesis is absolutely true for every natural number. Since true: n=1 => true for n=2, true: n=2 => true for n=3, etc. It is the responsibility of the prover to prove that induction through all generic cases is proper; when it is not, additional specific cases must be proved, or induction may not apply at all. Such an inductive proof is absolutely true for the logical system it is defined in, and just as correct as any deductive proof. When our perception of the natural laws change, etc., the proof remains true, but its usefulness may become nil if we perceive that no system in the real world could possibly correspond to the proof. In non-mathematical systems, it is possible that both deductive and inductive proofs will be seriously flawed, and I doubt one can try to prefer "approximate proofs" of one type over the other. If a system is not well-enough defined to permit accurate logical reasoning, then the chances are that an ingenious person can prove anything (see net.flame and net.religion for examples, also the congressional record). - Toby Robison (not Robinson!) allegra!eosp1!robison or: decvax!ittvax!eosp1!robison or (emergency): princeton!eosp1!robison