Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site teddy.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!teddy!rmc From: rmc@teddy.UUCP (R. Mark Chilenskas) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Now and Then Message-ID: <403@teddy.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Sep-84 17:33:25 EDT Article-I.D.: teddy.403 Posted: Mon Sep 10 17:33:25 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 16-Sep-84 09:04:09 EDT References: <13179@sri-arpa.UUCP> Organization: GenRad, Concord, Mass. Lines: 25 nduction. The proof is valid if the accepted community of experts agrees that the proof is valid (see for example various Wittgenstein and Putname essays on the foundations of mathematics and logic). The experts could be wrong for a variety of reasons. Natural law could change. The argument may be so complicated that everyone gets lost and misses a mistake (this has even happened before!) The class of cases may be poorly chosen. etc. The disagreement seems to be centered around a question of whether this community of experts accepts causality as part of the model. If it is, then we can use causality as an axiom in our proof systems. But it still boils down to what the experts accept. R Mark Chilenskas decvax!genrad!teddy!rmc