Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!bmcg!bprice From: bprice@bmcg.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.68k,net.arch,net.lang Subject: Re: IEN 137: On Holy Wars and a Plea for Peace Message-ID: <1350@bmcg.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Sep-84 15:13:25 EDT Article-I.D.: bmcg.1350 Posted: Mon Sep 10 15:13:25 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 16-Sep-84 10:37:20 EDT References: loral.444 <491@turtlevax.UUCP> <1185@rti-sel.UUCP> <1136@hcrvax.UUCP> <1665@sun.uucp>, <1675@sun.uucRe: IEN 137: On Lines: 37 Relay-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site dcdwest.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bmcg.UUCP Message-ID: <1350@bmcg.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Sep-84 15:13:25 PDT Holy Wars and a Plea for Peace Organization: Burroughs Corporation, San Diego Lines: 28 Thank you, gnu, for posting IEN 137; and thank you, Danny Cohen, whereever you are, for having written it. There is, however, one point of OTHER SLIGHTLY RELATED TOPICS (IF AT ALL) that is disputeable. To demonstrate that it is disputeable, I herewith dispute it: >The designers of the 1401 were probably ashamed to have address-0 and >hid it from the users, pretending that the memory started at address-1. Actually, the designers of the 1401 did something even worse than hiding it: they used this global thing for a very local purpose. The cell addressed by the address zero was used as the row counter for the card reader! I actually used it, once, when I needed a '&' character in front of a copy of the card image. The '&' character in 000 was left upon completion of the read-card instruction, and represented the value of the last row past the read brushes. Using this effect follows the First Law of Hacking: "Any phenomenon is an interface." Those same designers did a similar trick with address 100, but for the card punch. In this case, the value left was '9', the last row to pass the punch die. Ah! The joys of reminiscing! But now, back to work. --Bill Price -- --Bill Price uucp: {decvax!ucbvax philabs}!sdcsvax!bmcg!bprice arpa:? sdcsvax!bmcg!bprice@nosc