Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hound.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!houxm!hound!rfg From: rfg@hound.UUCP (R.GRANTGES) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: hearing songs before they start Message-ID: <596@hound.UUCP> Date: Fri, 24-Aug-84 22:22:37 EDT Article-I.D.: hound.596 Posted: Fri Aug 24 22:22:37 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 25-Aug-84 06:34:18 EDT References: <2197@sdccsu3.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 31 [.] You are hearing "pre-echo". There is also "post-echo", but it is usually masked by or heard as reverberation. There are two possible sources: Recording at too high a level on the master disc, or (much less likely) "print-through" on the master tape. When the master disc is being cut by a stylus, if the stylus moves too vigorously, it will push vinyl material over into the region of the next groove. Instead of thinking of the master disk as rigid, think of it as warm fudge when the cutting stylus comes along. If the grooves are not far enough for the cutting volume,some of the modulation of one groove will merge with that of the next. Remedy: space grooves farther apart or reduce cutter excursion. Usually caused by sloppiness in the disc mastering process. When recording tape is wound on a reel (as it must be) the layers of magnetic material are seperated only by the tape backing material and the magnetic field of one layer will interact with the layers on each side. Some of this interaction is permanent and is called "print- through." How much of it occurs depends on lots of factors such as heat, humidity, other magnetic fields, tape tension, materials used for tape and backing and their thickness. Commercially this is not usually bothersome because quality tapes are handled and stored properly and recordings at 15 or 30 inches per second cause adjacent layers of tape to have sound so closely spaced that it would not be perceived as echo but rather as muddiness or distortion. With amateur recordings made at slow tape speeds (especially cassettes at 1 7/8 ips) this can be more of a problem. Depending on how the tape is wound, the print-thru will appear as pre-echo or post echo. Remedy: use good materials, proper tape handling and storage techniques. Dick Grantges hound!rfg