Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hp-pcd!hp-dcd!hpfclk!fritz From: fritz@hpfclk.UUCP (fritz) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Turntable questions Message-ID: <76200013@hpfclk.UUCP> Date: Mon, 27-Aug-84 14:22:00 EDT Article-I.D.: hpfclk.76200013 Posted: Mon Aug 27 14:22:00 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 3-Sep-84 08:42:06 EDT Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Fort Collins, CO Lines: 55 Nf-ID: #N:hpfclk:76200013:000:2997 Nf-From: hpfclk!fritz Aug 27 10:22:00 1984 Well, I finally purchased a new cassette deck (Nak BX-150!), and am now in the throes of looking for a new turntable. But I have a dilemma. I would *really* like to have a first-rate, high- quality, excellent sounding turntable. I'm not going to go so far as a Linn or something equally outrageous (I'd like to keep it under $500 or so), but, as an example, the Rega Planar 2 seems to be a very cleanly-designed, well-constructed, and good-sounding table. (With Rega R-100 cartridge, it comes to about $450.) However, I have to face reality. I have "only" Sn-ears. I was able to hear the difference between the Rega and a Denon B-300 II (?), but only *very* slightly and only by A-B'ing the two tables with good recordings. (The cartridges, amps, speakers, cables, etc. were identical for both tables. They just unplugged one table from the Naim preamp and plugged in the other.) The difference was enough to justify the ~$75 difference, but... In addition, I seldom sit down in front of my speakers and concentrate on the crystal clarity and realism of the sound. More typically I am reading or something while the music is playing, and a 0.01% difference in sound is not going to kill me. The other facet of reality is: I am lazy. My very first turntable was fully manual (Kenwood KD-500, Black Widow, Shure V-15 Type IV -- not great, but not bad for a first table!). After owning it for several years, I came to the conclusion that I did not particularly enjoy cueing the stylus manually and jumping up at the end of the album to pick it up again. I am aware of the various pick-up devices that are available to lift the arm at the end of the album. This helps a lot, but I'd still prefer not to have to cue the arm at the start of the album, either. My table for the last few years has been a B&O 2400; much more convenient, but not a very terrific table. I don't believe in the linear-tracking gospel. Basically the idea is good; after all, that's how the cutter cut the groove, right? But having the cartridge/groove angle changing grossly and continuously across the album (as the motors move the arm ahead of the groove, and the groove catches up & passes the arm, etc.), and the vibrations associated with the motors, would not seem to augur good sound. Seems to me like a very gradual change in angle across the entire album, with no little motors cranking the arm around, would do a much better job. So it comes down to this: are there any *good* automatic tables out there? So far, the automatic tables I've seen seem to fit into two categories: 1. Pioneer, Kenwood, Sony, etc. (basically junk) 2. Technics & other linear-trackers (high-tech junk) Does anyone know of any automatic tables that fit into a third category, that of high-quality sounding automatics for under $5-600? Is there a table that will satisfy my sterling ears AND my love of convenience, or should I just go with a manual? Thanks, Gary Fritz {ihnp4,hplabs}!hpfcla!hpfclk!fritz