Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site vaxwaller.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!zehntel!varian!vaxwaller!cw From: cw@vaxwaller.UUCP (Carl Weidling) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: High Frequency sounds being audible Message-ID: <160@vaxwaller.UUCP> Date: Wed, 29-Aug-84 16:17:56 EDT Article-I.D.: vaxwaller.160 Posted: Wed Aug 29 16:17:56 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Sep-84 07:36:04 EDT Organization: Varian, Walnut Creek, CA Lines: 29 At various times discussions have occurred about whether or not certain "golden eared" people can hear above 20kHz. I recently read a book, 'Science and Music', that was written in the late 30's by Sir James Jeans which I found both readable and informative. In one chapter he talks about how assymetrical properties of the human ear cause it to generate sounds not being produced outside the body, hence not sounds that a microphone would pick up, unless I've mis- understood the section. One of these sounds is a difference frequency between two frequencies that are being produced. From what I understand I think this means that if two sound sources were producing sounds at frequencies of 30 kHz and 31 kHz, and the recording/playback system cut off at 20kHz, you would hear nothing in the playback, but if you were really there, you would hear a 1 kHz tone. The same applies if the frequencies were 130 kHz and 131 kHz. Even if my proposal is correct I doubt that it has any musical significance, but I wonder if it explains why some people hear some difference between systems when one system is faithful up to superaudible frequencies. Anyone care to comment? BTW I found 'Science & Music' in a bookstore in paperback, put out by Dover Publications, Inc., New York. It doesn't require knowlege of mathematics beyond fractions and covers the physics of string and wind instruments, acoustics, and origins of musical scales. I particularly like the section on scales with its exposition on the origin of the circle of fifths, and the differences between just intonation, the mean tone system, and equal temperament. Regards, Carl Weidling