Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihnp4.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!ihnp4!cfiaime From: cfiaime@ihnp4.UUCP (Jeff Williams) Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Re: stick vs wheel Message-ID: <639@ihnp4.UUCP> Date: Thu, 23-Aug-84 10:17:18 EDT Article-I.D.: ihnp4.639 Posted: Thu Aug 23 10:17:18 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Aug-84 04:37:02 EDT References: <119@tekred.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 44 The stick is, indeed, the more natural control. However, way back when (like in the mid to late 30's), the marketing types looked at the light plane and decided to make it look more like an automobile. Hence, you find the Aeronca K with an outsized airspeed indicator that looks like a car speedometer. The Piper Cruiser had the chrome trim on the panel, just like the 1938 Plymouth. The marketing types also asked for wheels rather than sticks. As an aside, on the airline type aircraft of the 20's and 30's, a wheel was needed so that two hands could be used on the controls. Some of the big airplanes had very heavy controls. Only recently, have the manufacturers of big airplanes gone back to powered controls and sticks as a test (Airbus 300 test) or for special purpose aircraft (B-1 series). In 1939 to 1942, Funk advertised their control wheel setup as "airline style control wheels." The other manufacturers soon followed with "automobile style" controls. Remember, this was also the time of the Ercoupe, Skyfarer, and several other 2-control "drive like a car" aircraft. Wheels sold better than sticks, so the light aircraft that could have used sticks had wheels. Several people have converted Taylorcrafts and Funks to stick controls, but the modification is rather rare. Several side-by-side aircraft use sticks rather than wheels. These include the Luscombe, CAP-10 (French), Grob Motorglider (German), Valmet PIK-19 and PIK-23 (Finnish), as well as the afore mentioned B-1. (This is not by any means an all inclusive list.) One problem with a stick in a side-by-side airplane is that of throttle placement. Traditionally the throttle is on the left side of the cockpit, but on a side-by-side it is in the center. This forces the pilot to use the left hand on the stick which is considered "backwards." Several designs use dual throttles so that each pilot uses the right hand on the stick. The wheel vs. stick is an interesting subject, to say the least. Jeff Williams AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, Ill ihnp4!cfiaime