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From: Carter@RUTGERS.ARPA
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Subject: Helicopters in RED DAWN
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Date: Thu, 6-Sep-84 17:51:00 EDT
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Posted: Thu Sep  6 17:51:00 1984
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From:  _Bob <Carter@RUTGERS.ARPA>

    From: ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!wanttaja at Ucb-Vax.arpa

    WHERE DID THEY GET THOSE (operating) HELICOPTERS???

    They appear to be Hind-A models, but close inspection with Jane's shows 
    some differences.  Does anyone have any information about the helos used
    in this movie?  Do the Soviets have a export civil version of the Hind?

Here is the reference:

"SOF Movies, Apocalypse in America, SOF Looks at Milius' New Movie,"
by SOF Staff, Soldier of Fortune Magazine, September 1984, page 28.

Page 30

     "The Mi-24 Hind attack helicopter is a different story.
Unobtainable outside the Soviet bloc, Milius had no choice but to
attempt a complete conversion.  Clay Wright, creator of the
helicopter in @i(Blue Thunder) (see "Blue Thunder," SOF, October
1983), took three French Puma helicopters rented from a Louisiana oil
company and fitted them with pylons and false hull sections to
recreate the Hind.  In the movie, the Hinds are used by the Russian
counterinsurgency unit to track the children through the mountains.
There are a few problems with the Hind replica, most notably four
rotor blades instead of five.  The air intakes are a bit flat and the
rear wheels protrude too far to the side.  But if one were shooting
at you, you probably wouldn't notice the difference.  Excitement is
going to cover a lot of little irregularities."


_Bob


[P.S.  Why is Milius unobtainable outside the Soviet bloc?]