Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site varian.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!zehntel!varian!fred From: fred@varian.UUCP Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: Advice 4 Novices Message-ID: <236@varian.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Sep-84 13:49:49 EDT Article-I.D.: varian.236 Posted: Tue Sep 4 13:49:49 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Sep-84 06:46:39 EDT References: <26700010@uiucuxc.UUCP>, <106@Cascade.ARPA> Organization: Varian, Walnut Creek, CA Lines: 31 I have to take exception that tubular tires (or sew-ups) are exceptionally prone to flats. This is a common myth heard most frequently from those who don't use tubulars. I use them and have used nothing else in 12 years of cycling-- that averages out to something over 5,000 miles per year, incidentally. I usually change my tubulars because they're bald, not flat. I don't use tire-savers (those awful little wire things that ride on the surface of the tire and sound like locusts). I do get glass and gravel bits out with my gloves as soon as I roll over them and I do inspect the tires regularly for imbeded nasties. My favorite tire is the Clement Futura-- under 300 grams and has a Kevlar strip under the tread. My favorite expensive tire is the Clement Criterium Seta. I have equal luck with these tires so I'm not sure the Kevlar does that much. Logically, it does not make sense that a 300 gram tubular is more prone to flats than a 300 gram "lightweight" clincher/tube combination. In fact the tube of the tubular is lighter than the clincher tube and therefore the tire part must be heavier, right? Finally, professional racers (I mean real ones like Lemond and Hinault, not Lon Haldeman), use tubulars exclusively. Sure, the team car is there to change a wheel in short order, but chasing back onto a pack of pros doing 30+ mph is not something you'd want to do just for the sake of saving a few grams in tire weight. Fred Klink Varian Instruments Walnut Creek, Cal