Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site pucc-i Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!CS-Mordred!Pucc-H:Pucc-I:ags From: ags@pucc-i (Seaman) Newsgroups: net.consumers,net.politics Subject: Re: Re: ID Message-ID: <400@pucc-i> Date: Wed, 22-Aug-84 10:32:21 EDT Article-I.D.: pucc-i.400 Posted: Wed Aug 22 10:32:21 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Aug-84 03:51:01 EDT References: <151@whuxl.UUCP>, <1593@ucbvax.UUCP>, <466@tty3b.UUCP> <1260@bmcg.UUCP> Organization: Purdue University Computing Center Lines: 20 > Over the weeks that this conversation has been going on, I have yet to see > anyone point out that, right here in the good old U S of A, the Supreme Court > of the land has held it to be proper use of the police power of the State, to > 'detain' anyone who does not produce sufficient identification, at the demand > of a 'peace officer.' The police cannot arbitrarily ask people for identification and "detain" them if they fail to produce it. This practice was challenged by a man in California a year or two ago, who made a habit of travelling on foot. He was somewhat unconventional in appearance, and therefore was constantly being hasselled by the police. He refused to produce identification when he was asked (pointing out that he was not being charged with anything) and his claim stood when he was taken to court. The police have to leave him alone unless they have probable cause to suspect that a crime has been committed. -- [This is my bugkiller line. It may appear to be misplaced, but it works.] Dave Seaman My hovercraft is no longer full of ..!pur-ee!pucc-i:ags eels (thanks to my confused cat).