Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mhuxm.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!mhuxm!abeles From: abeles@mhuxm.UUCP (abeles) Newsgroups: net.cooks Subject: Re: Bagel trivia (Re: Need Bagel Recipe) Message-ID: <207@mhuxm.UUCP> Date: Wed, 29-Aug-84 17:54:36 EDT Article-I.D.: mhuxm.207 Posted: Wed Aug 29 17:54:36 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 30-Aug-84 02:25:24 EDT References: <2070@ncrcae.UUCP> <1039@t4test.UUCP> <3139@ut-sally.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Murray Hill, NJ Lines: 36 Subject: Re: Bagel trivia (Re: Need Bagel Recipe) I don't know you, your family background, or who your friends are, but I'm a little shocked by some of your statements. "more luck in Poland or Czechoslovakia, where many of the "German" Jews actually lived" This statement implies to me that, (1) no German Jews exist today, or at least don't live in Germany (small problem with this statement) (2) certain Jews who lived in Poland or Czechoslovakia claimed to be actually from Germany (this is really misguided. No Polish Jews spoke German. Certain Czechoslovakian Jews did speak German, as did the non Jews near them. However, those Jews who did speak German in Czechoslovakia would not have known what a bagel is.) You are TOTALLY CONFUSED on the subjects of bagels and Jewish history! Unbelievable that someone with your ignorance on these subjects could actually write something in public. FURTHERMORE, you seem to be under the impression that bagels are a Jewish phenomenon. Most likely, they are a form of bread which comes from certain Eastern European (Slavic) areas. Calling a bagel Jewish is probably similar to calling pita bread Jewish (just because you may have been to Israel, or to an Israeli Felafel shop in the US, and found Jews eating pita bread). Pita bread comes from the Mideast. INCIDENTALLY, Jews who lived in Germany probably grew up not even knowing what a bagel is! So much for your monologue on bagels. --J. Abeles