Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watdcsu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watdcsu!dmcanzi From: dmcanzi@watdcsu.UUCP (David Canzi) Newsgroups: net.motss,net.religion,net.flame Subject: Re: The Kiss of Death Message-ID: <387@watdcsu.UUCP> Date: Sun, 26-Aug-84 01:03:25 EDT Article-I.D.: watdcsu.387 Posted: Sun Aug 26 01:03:25 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 26-Aug-84 01:33:33 EDT References: <3431@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 30 The lines beginning with ">" are from Ken Arndt... > In what sense is something > (anything) to be seen as "against nature"? If I insist in jumping off > buildings without a parachute is that against nature? ... > What is the result of > homosexual behavior vis a vis nature??? Well, it is the contention of > one leading British expert, writing in the BRITISH JOURNAL OF VENEREAL > DISEASES in 1982, that the common mouth-anal contact of active > homosexuals carries "the almost inevitable risk of transfer of bowel > pathogens." ... > > The question before the house is, Is it "natural" to consider the > lower bowel to be a sexual organ? Is it analogous to other self > destructive behavior? Sure we can work for a cure, maybe even get one. Are you still talking about bowel pathogens? They *are* curable, y'know. > Should you continue with the behavior in the mean time? And does the > presence of a cure really answer the question? (you remember, the one > before the house!) If I can fix up broken legs and heads does that mean > that jumping is now NOT againts nature? You seem to believe that self-harmful behaviour is unnatural *because* of its harmful consequences. (You didn't say so explicitly, but you seem to use it as an assumption in your reasoning.) If, as a result of medical advances, or of simply being more cautious, such behaviour no longer has harmful consequences, then it is no longer unnatural. See? David Canzi, watmath!watdcsu!dmcanzi