Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site tty3b.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ltuxa!tty3b!mjk From: mjk@tty3b.UUCP (Mike Kelly) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics Subject: Re: RE: Reagan's joke Message-ID: <479@tty3b.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Sep-84 15:09:40 EDT Article-I.D.: tty3b.479 Posted: Tue Sep 4 15:09:40 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Sep-84 03:31:30 EDT References: <1717@sdccs6.UUCP> Organization: Teletype Corp., Skokie, Ill Lines: 32 From: ix241@sdccs6.UUCP (John Testa): It is sad to have an arm race. But the US and Europe have been walking while the USSR has been racing. US: 3 new missiles in the last ten years. USSR: 6(?) in the last ten years. Be realistic when you get angry about policies and such you disagree with. The real point, of course, is not how many new missiles each side added in the last ten years but the total balance. There is substantial evidence that the total balance is roughly equal. Counts comparing Soviet Bloc strength to U.S. strength in Europe are calculated to deceive; what of the French force frappe and the British nukes? Include these and the so-called Soviet advantage melts. As to conventional strength, it is far from clear that there is a Soviet advantage. For example, the Soviets have more tanks, but NATO has more anti-tank weapons. And the Soviet tanks weren't exactly marvels of stength when used in the Middle East. The Israelis were able to basically destroy every one they hit with U.S.- made anti-tank weapons. The question never answered by the amateur strategists is why in heaven the Soviets would ever WANT to invade Western Europe. They can barely keep Poland under control, and the East Germans are starting to make frightening gestures towards reunification. One could argue that the quickest way to destroy the Soviet Bloc is for them to invade Western Europe. It seems to me that Soviet defense policy is best understood as (a) building a protective wall around the Soviet Union, which their current satellites are sufficient for provided the U.S. doesn't make any threatening moves and (b) exploiting advantage where it appears in Africa and the Mideast. It is far from evident to me that Soviet policy is directed at an invasion of Western Europe; far more likely is that it is directed at the fear of an invasion FROM Western Europe. Note that I'm not defending Soviet policy, just trying to understand it. To me, satellites in East Europe are obnoxious. So are satellites in Central America. Mike Kelly