Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site loral.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!sdcc6!loral!simard From: simard@loral.UUCP (Ray Simard) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame Subject: Re: Supreme Court Justices--SCREAM!!!!! Message-ID: <471@loral.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Sep-84 00:08:47 EDT Article-I.D.: loral.471 Posted: Wed Sep 19 00:08:47 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Sep-84 02:14:35 EDT References: <3114@rabbit.UUCP> Organization: Loral Instrumentation, San Diego, CA Lines: 84 >Lookie here, kiddies, how does THIS sound? > >1) Reagan is re-elected >2) Three Supreme Court justices either resign or die >3) RR appoints three justices who > a) Don't support Miranda Let's not confuse Miranda with abuse of the exclusionry rule. > b) Don't support the right to abortion as personal choice Fine. > c) Support prayer in schools, etc Or support the right of those who WANT to pray to do so if they wish. > d) Don't support ERA. No comment; I think ERA is fine, but redundant. >4) One third of the population is tried for homicide, retroactively, > concerning abortion Nobody I'm aware of is suggesting any such thing. Anyway, that would be an ex-post-facto law, and therefore unconstitutional. >5) Those who don't pray in school are forced to either pray or suffer > the same consequences I saw in grade school. (Labelled as a > 'little heathen', etc) By whom? If it's classmates, then THEY and their attitude are the problem. >6) Anyone with long hair/beard/bad manners/wrong color/wrong politics > is again subjected to illegal search and seizure on a regular basis. Not a chance. Where did this idea come from that unless persons can escape justice by back-door technicalities UNRELATED to their guilt or innocence, justice is ill-served? And nobody in the conservative camp is suggesting a police-state free-for-all against random targets. It just might be that, with the new social awareness that grew up in the last few decades, people are more tolerant of each other than before. Sure, there's plenty of irresponsible discrimination, but there is also a clear shift, born of open discussions and challenging of traditional ideas that has taken place. Somewhere, the idea has grown up that things have changed only because the government has made them change; while there has been a role, the far larger one has been that of a dramatically maturing society which has embraced concepts of human value and dignity INDIVIDUALLY far more than before. In this election season, there has been a flurry of suggestions that all the evils of the old-line McCarthyism, racism and injustice are waiting in the wings bearing the banner of conservatism. I don't buy it. Neither Reagan nor the so-called New Right are trying to jam religion, police abuses, jingoism or elitism down the nation's collective throat, as they have been accused. There is an effort to rebalance those issues: allowing, but not requiring, prayer, getting rid of the "Star Chamber" kind of esoteric legal nonsense, negotiating with other nations, the Soviets in particular, rather than appeasing them, and building good for the poor and middle classes with a vigorous economy rather than a concocted class war. >Who will YOU vote for, the rock or the hard place? Well, I've got my differences with the 'rock', as I believe, by sequence, you refer to Ronnie, but I like the direction we're going, if not all the side trips. Reagain! -- [ I am not a stranger, but a friend you haven't met yet ] Ray Simard Loral Instrumentation, San Diego {ucbvax, ittvax!dcdwest}!sdcsvax!sdcc6!loral!simard