Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: net.followup,net.politics Subject: Re: Star Wars Defense Plan Message-ID: <4321@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Sat, 15-Sep-84 19:57:59 EDT Article-I.D.: utzoo.4321 Posted: Sat Sep 15 19:57:59 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Sep-84 19:57:59 EDT References: <557@ttds.UUCP>, <388@vu44.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 51 > ... Weapons like the neutron bomb, the SS-20 and the > cruise missile are designed to be used. *That* is what makes > them so dangerous... Please explain to me how these weapons differ so fundamentally from all previous weapons. I'm afraid I see no such distinction. All weapons are designed to function if asked to, and to not function if not asked to. I see no evidence that, say, the SS-20 is "designed to be used" to any greater or lesser extent than an SS-9 or a "Frog" artillery missile. > Now, with the event of small nuclear arms ... Are you really so naive as to believe that small nuclear arms are new? They've been around for twenty years or more. If you want an example of a *really* dangerous nuclear weapon, consider the "Davy Crockett", deployed in the early 60's and retired a few years later: a nuclear missile with a very small warhead and a range of only about 3 kilometers. This was a truly gross case of a missile that an army commander would be sorely tempted to use before the Soviets could overrun it; that was part of the reason why it was retired quickly in favor of longer-range weapons. > If a general sees a tank division coming his way, he might be > tempted very soon to use something like a neutron bomb. Again, "tactical" nuclear weapons are nothing true; if you change the word "neutron" to "tactical nuclear", removing the reference to a new technology, this statement has been true for most of our lifetimes. > The other side will probably see this as a nuclear aggression, > and launch a couple of cruise missiles or SS-20's to take out > a minor city as a warning. Again, substitute "ICBMs" for cruise missiles, or "Pershing I" (not II) for "SS-20's". There is nothing new about this prospect, and the new weaponry is not really changing anything fundamental. > I think that this is the real reason for the opposition against > the new nuclear weapons. The are *NOT* meant to scare the other > party, the are meant to be *USED*. MAD protected us against war > for 40 years, but these new weapons make MAD obsolete. Again, you haven't justified this statement in any way. Please explain why the new weapons are so fundamentally different from things that have been in place for decades. If you don't *know* what things have been in place for decades, don't you think you should find out before sounding off on the subject? -- Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry