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Subject: Re: The Dark Knight - (nf)
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Date: Fri, 7-Sep-84 02:26:00 EDT
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uokvax!lmaher    Sep  7 01:26:00 1984

I tried mailing this to ism780!geoff but it bounced.  Since I've
seen no one else post a reply I'll do so.

> How does a F/MU 11/15 get 117 hit points with only a 15 con?
>
> The way I read the rules(guidelines), he gets;
>
>              (11d10/2) + (15d4/2) + ((11+15)/2)
>        Fighter dice^          ^ MU dice    ^(CON bonus)
>
>
> Giving an evil character an extra 50 ( or so) hit points makes him
> pretty kick-ass, I'll agree, but where did he get them?

Dekith is not a Fighter/Magic User split class, but a Fighter-
Magic User multiple class.  Humans *cannot* split class, but with
high enough stats they can start all over in a second class, and
are unable to use the abilities of the first class until they
exceed their previous level, at which point they can use both. If
you were allowed to add the points together, then Dekith would
get:

       (9d10+4) + (11d4+4) + (9+11) = 9d10 + 11d4 + 28
Fighter dice^      ^ MU dice    ^(CON bonus)

which has an average of 105, not unreasonably far from 117.
Remember that hit dice top out at named level (9L Lord for
Fighters, 11L wizard for Mages).

Unfortunately, I looked it up and standard AD&D only gives you
Hit dice for your second class after you exceed the level of the
first.  So Dekith should get:

       (9d10+4) + (4)      + (15) = 9d10 + 23
Fighter dice^      ^ MU dice  ^(CON bonus)

with a maximum of 113 and an average of 72.5. It seems like a
rip-off to have to earn the experience but not get the hit
points, but that's AD&D (tm) for you.

I expect most of the characters posted will be human multiple
class.  In my streamlined-D&D campaign I have a NPC villain who's
14L Cleric/15L Paladin/16L Monk/17L Magic User.  I'd post her,
but she's probably well above 3 million experience points, and I
don't think I want to wade through the AD&D rules to convert her
back to the standard system, which doesn't even have Anti-
Paladins anyway.

	--Carl