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From: honey@down.FUN (code 101)
Newsgroups: net.mail,net.bugs.uucp
Subject: Re: sendmail configuration notes
Message-ID: <306@down.FUN>
Date: Sun, 9-Sep-84 10:25:43 EDT
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Posted: Sun Sep  9 10:25:43 1984
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Far be it from me to encourage people to ignore the ARPA standards;
would that we could.  However, I am rigidly opposed to their wholesale
imposition on the non-ARPA world.  Observe that my configuration
changes pertain only to the local and uucp mailers.  ARPA mailers can
(and (grumble) probably should, because they (grimace) must) add any
headers they like (or need).

My remarks concerning disk/transmission overhead were not meant to sway
anyone; on the other hand, if everyone would be so kind as to send me
the one or two blocks per day they give up to Brother Allman, I will
never have to buy another disk.  (This is know as the Roome-effect,
well known to USENET old-timers.)

I have more than enough of an audit trail in my uucp logs.  Mark's
sarcastic reference to uucp reliability is more than a little ironic; I
should think that anyone so fortunate as to be running a vastly
improved version of uucp would show a little appreciation, rather than
spewing slander.  Furthermore, the only benefit that I can see in
dropping an audit trail in my mailbox is to trace back to the broken
version of sendmail that created the havoc in the first place.

Finally, telling people to use mailers unavailable (or repugnant) to
them is not a solution.  I repeat my central thesis:

	The message I have in mind is the one I send, not one that is
	expanded (and sometimes perverted) by a smart mailer.

If you have some other notion when you send electronic mail, I
encourage you to build your ideas into *your* mailer, but not, thank
you, into mine.

As an aside, I use a substantially modified version of the Berkeley
2.17 mailer (the last Berkeley mailer that actually works).  I ignore
message-id, status, received, article-id, article-i.d., date-received,
lines, path, posting-version, relay-version, posted, in-reply-to,
resent-date, resent-from, resent-message-id, via, references,
organization, and full-name.  Get the picture?
	Peter