Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!decwrl!amd!fortune!hpda!hplabs!hao!seismo!brl-tgr!gwyn From: gwyn@brl-tgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) Newsgroups: net.math Subject: Re: Dot Town, U.S.A. Message-ID: <4319@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Wed, 29-Aug-84 12:59:29 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.4319 Posted: Wed Aug 29 12:59:29 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 31-Aug-84 03:21:27 EDT References: <2479@hplabsb.UUCP>, <940@houxz.UUCP> Organization: Ballistics Research Lab Lines: 16 Ed Davisson & I discussed the Dot Town puzzle under the assumption that everyone believed the stranger (assume it was God speaking or some such). Under this condition, the puzzle turns into a "prisoner's dilemma". One can reason that the town suicides no matter how many blue dots there are (must be at least one, God has spoken), under additional reasonable assumptions about how long it takes the logicians to reason etc. The dilemma is that in the case of several blue dots no one has received any additional information from God's speech, and it is possible to reason that the town was stable and alive before the speech. If the stranger is not known to be trustworthy, then also there is no new information added, so if the town was stably alive it remains so. Can such a town exist (be self-consistent and stably alive)? Apparently not, since its existence leads to the dilemma. Is there some way to determine that the town cannot exist without invoking the dilemma??