Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihlts.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!ihlts!rjnoe From: rjnoe@ihlts.UUCP (Roger Noe) Newsgroups: net.math Subject: Polyhedral dice Message-ID: <554@ihlts.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Sep-84 09:45:44 EDT Article-I.D.: ihlts.554 Posted: Wed Sep 12 09:45:44 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Sep-84 06:42:53 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 32 Everyone's familiar with the ordinary six-sided die, the regular cube. Many are familiar with dice in the shape of the other four regular polyhedra, the tetrahedron (4 triangular faces), octahedron (8 triangular faces), dodecahedron (12 pentagonal faces) and the icosahedron (20 triangular faces). If we assume all these are fair dice (i.e. absolutely constant density of the solid material which makes up the dies and perfectly sharp edges), the notion of symmetry dictates that each face of one of these dice is equally likely to turn up (or down) as is any of the other faces of the same die. But what about fair polyhedra which are not quite regular? I'm not up on all of the terminology in this area, so I would appreciate others clarifying some of this for me. Here's what I'm aiming at: 1. Each of the faces of these "semi-regular" polyhedra is a regular polygon but not all the faces are the same. For instance, we could have a polyhedron with squares and equilateral triangles making up the faces. 2. The polyhdedra are all convex, so that the relationship faces + vertices = edges + 2 applies. 3. Each vertex is equivalent to each of the other vertices in terms of the number of edges incident and the pattern of faces around it (allowing for rotation). Symmetry again would indicate that all the faces of one type on the polyhedron would have equal probabilities of ending on bottom if the die is rolled. I am unsure of how to go about finding this probability. It would seem to have something to do with the area of the face and the dihedral angles about that face. I would expect it to be independent of the speed at which the die is rolled. Anyone have any information on this topic or any ideas how to go about analytically determining the probabilities of rolling one face or another? -- "It's only by NOT taking the human race seriously that I retain what fragments of my once considerable mental powers I still possess." Roger Noe ihnp4!ihlts!rjnoe