Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sri-unix!KEN@JPL-VLSI.ARPA From: KEN@JPL-VLSI.ARPA Newsgroups: net.micro.apple Subject: Re(n): //c modem problems Message-ID: <13336@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Sun, 9-Sep-84 22:01:00 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.13336 Posted: Sun Sep 9 22:01:00 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Sep-84 05:43:23 EDT Lines: 27 From: Ken Adelman Rumor has it that Woz (or someone that he programmed) thought that apple could save a few dollars per apple by using a timing signal that already existed on the motherboard instead of a 1.84320 Mhz signal that the 6551 requires. Since I have yet to hook my modem to a //c, I haven't experienced this 1165 baud problem myself. The same rumor said that if you returned your //c to your dealer and complained about it, that he would solder a 1.84320 Mhz crystal onto the board in a pad that apple left for such a purpose. Attempts to get our local dealer to this resulted in responses like "but I don't even have the service manual...". If you don't mind voiding the warranty, adding the crystal would be quite easy. I recall that the 6551 will support either a crystal being directly connected to it or an external timing signal. Sounds like cutting one wire and soldering two. I would be willing to look up the pin numbers on the 6551 which the crystal should be connected across, in case it is not obvious upon opening the apple. I would be more interested in hearing from someone who has managed to get apple to fix it. I don't know if apple's modems will work with it, but I suspect that if they send the characters over the phone at the same rate that their modem won't talk to a Vadic (1205 baud) on the other end. -Ken Adelman Caltech ------