Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxi.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!ihuxi!cher From: cher@ihuxi.UUCP (Mike Musing) Newsgroups: net.motss,net.religion,net.flame Subject: Re: Serpent in Paradise Message-ID: <1037@ihuxi.UUCP> Date: Fri, 24-Aug-84 19:58:45 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxi.1037 Posted: Fri Aug 24 19:58:45 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 25-Aug-84 07:56:23 EDT References: <1030@ihuxi.UUCP>, <915@bbncca.ARPA> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 32 > Gay men have "no control over their minority affiliation", unless you > believe sexuality is a matter of preference rather than fundamental > orientation of personality. Of course, not having sex or receiving Yeah, I believe that sexuality is both. > But Haitians can take the same measures: abstain from all sex and > blood transfusions. They're no more captive to their "minority > affiliation" in this regard than are gay men. Ha-ha! Do you purposely ignore the distinction, or are you unaware of it? By homosexuality we mean lifestyle more often then preference or orientation. Those are NOT same things as was indicated by many people on this very net. No matter what a Haitian does he/she would still be Haitian. They are born this way - enough said. You puffing is not enough to prove same thing about gays. Important disclaimer from you is "gay men". Right, women don't fit in the hypothesis so nicely. > yet Mike still tries to trade on the idea that gays are less of an > "authentic" minority than, say, Haitians. > Cheers, > Ron Rizzo You still trying to sell the idea that they are? Anyway, I did not even mention gays in my question, leave alone "trading". You can do battle with the people who are willing to dig up research papers on the subject till the day the aliens reveal the truth (your suggestion, methinks). I am neither. All the best, Mike Musing