Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site uwmacc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!mhuxl!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hao!seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois From: dubois@uwmacc.UUCP Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: The value 'c' Message-ID: <240@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 28-Aug-84 17:15:49 EDT Article-I.D.: uwmacc.240 Posted: Tue Aug 28 17:15:49 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Sep-84 08:28:09 EDT References: <1160@ihuxq.UUCP> Organization: UWisconsin-Madison Academic Comp Center Lines: 34 > [Ken Perlow] > I've heard a real creationist with a real PhD (in something) say that > the speed of light is changing, and used to be much higher, perhaps > infinite. His "research" is provably bogus, however. And clearly, > were the speed of light truly variable, *ALL* of post-Newtonian physics > would have to be thrown out. Gadzooks--more than that! Do you know > how many equations "c" figures into? If his research was faked, I'm certainly not going to defend it. That's reprehensible. However, non-creationists occasionally are discovered to have fudged, as well. This sort of thing occurring on either side of the question settles nothing, except that not all scientists (or "scientists", perhaps) are engaged in science. About the speed of light: not to dispute whether it is variable or not, but the sentiment expressed by Ken above may be characterized, perhaps, as unnecessarily dogmatic. Not because it affirms a well- attested phenomenon or fact of the universe, but because it seems to be based on the idea "if it is does turn out to be variable, we have to rethink our physics?" Is that unthinkable? A while back, the "Law of Parity" achieved rather widespread acceptance, didn't it? Yet it turned out to be wrong. Granted, that didn't involve throwing out all of post-Newtonian physics. But to refuse to consider whether 'c' is wrong because that would mean changing our thinking? Really, now. Surely that's not what you really mean, is it, Ken? -- Paul DuBois {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois Thy testimonies have I taken as an heritage forever: for they are the rejoicing of my heart. Psalm 119:111