Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxr.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!ihuxr!lew From: lew@ihuxr.UUCP (Lew Mammel, Jr.) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Son of Variable C Message-ID: <1181@ihuxr.UUCP> Date: Sat, 1-Sep-84 22:24:10 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxr.1181 Posted: Sat Sep 1 22:24:10 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 3-Sep-84 10:19:09 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 28 Let me assure Paul DuBois that I not only considered, but spent undue hours studying and analyzing "The Velocity of Light and The Age of the Universe" by Barry Setterfield. This work was cited by Walter Brown, a local creationism advocate here in Naperville IL, in a talk he gave at Indian Hill Bell Labs at the invitation of the Indian Hill Bible Club. I posted a series of articles to net.religion (this predated net.origins) explaining in gory detail why I judged Setterfield's work to be "scientific bathos". Please note the tentative way that Paul advanced his suggestion that this concept is a victim of evolutionary dogmatism. There is a childrens' game at Show Biz Pizza Place which makes a striking metaphor for this sort of creationist argumentation. A series of large plastic pegs pop up one at a time from an array of holes as the player tries to pound each one in succession with a large mallet, which usually lands harmlessly as its target retreats to cover just ahead of it, even as another pops enticingly into view. I thought I had scored a hit last time around, but I later realized that several prominent net creationists were quietly sitting that one out. On this second time around, I find myself thoroughly disabused of the notion that any creationist argument can be silenced by refutation. Lew Mammel, Jr. ihnp4!ihuxr!lew "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly" Proverbs 26:11