Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cbscc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!cbosgd!cbscc!pmd From: pmd@cbscc.UUCP (Paul Dubuc) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Did Dick Dunn Really do Message-ID: <3692@cbscc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Sep-84 11:56:15 EDT Article-I.D.: cbscc.3692 Posted: Wed Sep 12 11:56:15 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Sep-84 07:13:26 EDT References: <1141@hao.UUCP>, <791@opus.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories , Columbus Lines: 39 I don't think Dick has to repost his request for a presentation of scientific creationism. But what about the request I posted in response to that one. I know it got out there. I read many articles titled "Re: Let's have scientific evolutionism too", but their content didn't match my request. One of them was an attempt by Larry Bickford to respond to Dick's request, which was in turn responded to by others. Others were just shorty jokes like "How about religious evolutionism? :-)" and a response to that by Paul DuBois: "That's what we have now." with resulting flames in response to that. That's all I saw. Maybe I didn't see it all. It's usually easier to play the skeptic than it is to play the apologist, no matter what the issue. I've seen proponents of evolutionism argue on two opposing fronts. One objection to creationism it that it can't be proved wrong because the Creator's supernatural powers can be invoked whimsically to solve inconsistencies in the evidence. These people ususally go on to discredit it with their arguments anyway. On the other hand, when creationists play skeptic and point out gaps and inconsistencies in evolution the standard apologia is that evolutionism is not dogmatic and there is still a lot we cannot explain but which will be explained. We should not expect evolutionists to have all the answers because scientific knowledge is growing. It seems to me that creationists are supposed to have an air-tight scientific model for their theory to be considered science, but evolutionists don't have to. With evolution, the faith that science will fill in the gaps with the right evolutionistic answers is acceptable, but the persuit of the same answers along the lines of the existence of a purposeful Creator is not. -- Paul Dubuc {cbosgd,ihnp4}!cbscc!pmd The true light that enlightens every one was coming into the world... (John 1:9)