Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site ll1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!mgnetp!ll1!cej From: cej@ll1.UUCP (Chuck Jones MMOCS) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: No time Message-ID: <270@ll1.UUCP> Date: Tue, 11-Sep-84 10:28:28 EDT Article-I.D.: ll1.270 Posted: Tue Sep 11 10:28:28 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Sep-84 20:52:41 EDT Organization: Chicago, Illinois Lines: 32 [What a cruel god, to knowingly make an Eve that will eat the apple.] > As far as the age of the universe is concerned, I believe the > current estimate is 15 Billion years. I suppose *something* had > to be around back then, but what was there before that? One of > the puzzles that has plagued me is that all light has a source > somewhere. If you went back far enough in time, it seems that > you should theoretically reach a point where there was no light in > existence. Since the speed of light is the constant by which we > measure time, could there be any such thing as "time" where there > is no light? I digress. > > Paul Dubuc {cbosgd,ihnp4}!cbscc!pmd It may plague you Paul, but it doesn't plague cosmic evolutionists (those who hold that the universe evolved from a single cosmic event, reguardless of the origin of life on this planet). It simply interests them. According to the latest theories, (sorry, but I don't believe that it would presently be falsifiable), there was a point at which all the matter/energy in the universe was in/at a single point, and the forces of the universe were, for a moment unified. At this point there was extreme warping of the time/space "fabric". Just prior to this was the situation you envision. For a timeless moment time and space did not exist. What caused the great blast of energy that "formed" time and space is still anybody's guess, but the only "natural" answer (and I have a very natural god) is that the oscillating universe theory is the closest to what happened. Catch you next time cycle Chuck Jones ...mgnetp!ll1!cej