Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!gargoyle!stuart From: stuart@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP (Stuart Kurtz) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: A response to Mike Ward's survey Message-ID: <199@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Sep-84 10:05:16 EDT Article-I.D.: gargoyle.199 Posted: Wed Sep 12 10:05:16 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Sep-84 20:53:26 EDT References: <1142@hao.UUCP> Organization: U. Chicago - Computer Science Lines: 29 First, I am eligible to respond: I do not believe that modern "scientific creationism", is scientific. Moreover, I do not believe that such "scientific creation" is correct, irrespective of whether or not it is scientific. Question 1: Yes, I would subscribe to net.origins even if there was no risk of "creation science" being mandated by law. There are several reasons for this: first, I am very interested in scientific methodology, philosophy, and history; second, I am interested in the interaction of theology and science; and finally, I enjoy a good debate. Question 2: Yes, see above. In fact, I honestly believe that "scientific creationism" has a place in education. For example, a legitimately scientific theory of creation was the precursor of our current theories of evolution. Studying how evolution came to replace creationism as the dominate theory of origins is certainly worth- while, and would demystify much of how "actual" science is done. [Note here: I do not believe that modern "scientific creationism" is in any meaningful way the intellectual descendant of nineteenth century creationism. Rather, it is the descendant of an anti-intellectual tradition within American protestant fundamentalism.] Stu