Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site denelcor.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hao!denelcor!neal From: neal@denelcor.UUCP (Neal Weidenhofer) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: the problem with libertarianism Message-ID: <558@denelcor.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Sep-84 17:40:42 EDT Article-I.D.: denelcor.558 Posted: Thu Sep 6 17:40:42 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Sep-84 03:12:45 EDT References: <8135@umcp-cs.UUCP> Organization: Denelcor, Aurora, CO Lines: 31 ************************************************************************** >Libertarians have yet to supply an argument for regarding 'liberty' as the >overriding value they take it to be. And unless and until they do so, we >political moderates have every logical right to think otherwise. If >preventing starvation requires depriving wealthy persons of some of 'their' >'property', so be it. And since we ARE stronger than you are, the PRACTICAL >burden of argument rests on you to convince us we are wrong. Furthermore, I >submit that such an argument is not forthcoming. Reason: it is impossible >to give a sound argument for a false conclusion. > --The aspiring iconoclast, > Paul Torek, umcp-cs!flink O.K., here are two to try on for size: 1. "The Goose that Laid the Golden Egg" also "The Modern Little Red Hen". If you really think that you can do better for yourself(ves) by banging us over the head and taking what we have than you can by trading for what we create, I submit that your philosophy is in pretty bad shape. What happens when you run out of people that are willing to produce so that you can rob them? 2. If you really want to bring it down to this level, I further submit that, even though you might outnumber us, productive people make better fighters than starving people. Regards, Neal Weidenhofer "Nothin' ain't worth nothin' Denelcor, Inc. but it's free" !denelcor!neal