Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxq.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!ubc-vision!alberta!ihnp4!ihuxq!ken From: ken@ihuxq.UUCP (ken perlow) Newsgroups: net.politics,can.politics Subject: Re: Libertarians considered psychotic Message-ID: <1205@ihuxq.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Sep-84 23:56:11 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxq.1205 Posted: Mon Sep 10 23:56:11 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Sep-84 22:16:37 EDT References: <5140@utcsrgv.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 29 -- >> So, in a phrase, I think libertarians are psychotic competition fanatics >> while anarchists are useful proponents of decentralization in order to >> make society better adapted to local conditions, and to encourage >> cooperation between people treated as equals. >> peter rowley I almost agree. I think libertarians are compulsive about logial systems, viz: the government with the fewest good rules is the best. So it's really only a neurosis--a handy one for scientists looking for order among the chaos--merely inappropriately applied to the human sphere. I'll pick an easy example. Libertarians often speak of "freedom" as if it were one uncontested good thing, essentially, as Peter suggests, capitalism unchained. That is pure economic democracy. But there's also social democracy--human rights--and it is often at odds with economic democracy. Sometimes a free spirit bumps up against the body of free enterprise. (Consider modern environmental issues.) Then whose freedom is more precious? No decent (in the moral sense) political philosophy will have an easy answer. -- *** *** JE MAINTIENDRAI ***** ***** ****** ****** 10 Sep 84 [24 Fructidor An CXCII] ken perlow ***** ***** (312)979-7188 ** ** ** ** ..ihnp4!ihuxq!ken *** ***