Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!mmt From: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Newsgroups: net.followup,net.politics Subject: Re: Star Wars Defense... Message-ID: <1114@dciem.UUCP> Date: Thu, 13-Sep-84 17:47:17 EDT Article-I.D.: dciem.1114 Posted: Thu Sep 13 17:47:17 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Sep-84 18:50:57 EDT References: <1782@ucbvax.ARPA> Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 33 ==================== All the more reason, I think, for giving it [the CIA] more power so that it can effectively challenge the KGB in these countries (and undermine USSR-sympathetic governments). You have to fight fire with fire, and if half the country knows exactly what the CIA is up to all the time, and whether or not it will do some espionage must be determined by a vote of congress, it can't be very effective. Wayne ======================= I've always thought the metaphor "fight fire with fire" rather strange. Water usually works best, although there are occasions when you have to burn a firebreak to contain a conflagration. Whether the current state of the world could be considered a conflagration depends on your particular demonology. My feeling is that the best defence against the Communists is to make our own way of life evidently attractive, not to copy them. If our principles (and practices) are obviously better for another country than the Communist principles (and practices), why should any country go their way. The problem is that both Russia and the USA are seen as big bullies, and their rhetoric sounds better to poor people. It isn't self-evident that our way is better when you are starving and without effective ways of sampling either possibility. Who offers most apparent opportunity for improvement? For lots of people oppresed by dictators supported from Washington, the Russian offers of support must sound mighty attractive. We must not only be better than them; we must be seen to be better. -- Martin Taylor {allegra,linus,ihnp4,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt {uw-beaver,qucis,watmath}!utcsrgv!dciem!mmt