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From: brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton)
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Subject: Liberty and Isolation are not the same things.
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Date: Sat, 15-Sep-84 00:00:00 EDT
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Posted: Sat Sep 15 00:00:00 1984
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I get tired of all this mispresentation of the philosophy of liberty.
Where do people get the idea that capitalists and libertarians (small l)
don't believe in cooperation?   That's the very essence of capitalism.

You say, "don't you libertarians see that there are common social goals
and that we must work together to reach them?"

A capitalist will be the first to tell you that the way the world works is
by people recognizing their common goals and working together on them.
You TRADE... you recognize what you have that others want, and what they
have that you want and you trade, of your own free will, for it is a common
goal you have.

The socialist is the opposite.  They say that they have spotted the common
goals, and that since not everybody agrees with them, we must use force
to ensure that they "cooperate."   The reality is that one does not
cooperate with a socialist or any other totalitarian.  One complies.

So what is it that makes you attack capitalism?  Is it because it
advocates competition and you think that's wasteful and destructive when
a central authority could resolve issues from above and settle matters?
If so, then please tell me how you could possibly think this is going
to be more productive than what we have.  Sure competition results in
some wasted effort, but if you can show me any evidence that autocracy
is better, it will be big news.

Now cut the name calling folks.  I don't call you socialists psychotic!
I understand perfectly why you advocate what you do.  It's not a mental
disorder, just an error in judgement.   I hope you can give the same credit
to capitalists.  To call somebody psychotic because you can't understand
them is rather weak, don't you suspect?  Especially you Peter.  Do you
really think I have a brain disorder that disconnects me from reality?
-- 
	Brad Templeton - Waterloo, Ontario (519) 884-7473