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From: berman@ihuxm.UUCP
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Subject: Context of the Debate
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Date: Thu, 6-Sep-84 09:44:18 EDT
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Posted: Thu Sep  6 09:44:18 1984
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A Liberal writes:

> Private statements, actions, and policies of the KGB (also reflective 
> of the Soviet government's position) indicate that an active unremitting
> campaign has been in progress for at least 30 years with the principal 
> goal of undermining Western and Western-sympathetic governments, 
> institutions, and philosophies. (yes, yes, yes, I know; we have the
> sometimes suspect actions of our CIA as an albatross--all the more
> reason to keep them under control and prevent them from making de facto 
> policies and taking unilateral actions).

A Conservative responds:

>>All the more reason, I think, for giving it more power so that
>>it can effectively challenge the KGB in these countries (and
>>undermine USSR-sympathetic governments). You have to fight fire
>>with fire, and if half the country knows exactly what the CIA is
>>up to all the time, and whether or not it will do some espionage
>>must be determined by a vote of congress, it can't be very effective. 
>>
>>	Wayne
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     The context of this debate is in never-never land!

     Today's newspaper reports rebellion in the streets of South
     Africa by a very oppressed people against a racist regime.
     It reports bloddy supression of strikers in Chile by a
     fascist government incapable of keeping the feeble economy
     alive. It reports new unity in the opposition to Phillipines
     Dictator Marcos.   All three repressive regimes are part of
     the "free" world and are friendly to the US Government.
     All three regimes are facing the just wrath of their
     population.  

     Yet the debate on the net is not over the nature of these
     rebellions. It is not even over CIA  efforts to keep these
     doomed regimes alive.  The debate ASSUMES that the KGB is 
     behind it all and the only question is how much to unleash
     the CIA to counter the KGB!!!!.
                                          
      Tom Jefferson surely turns in his grave.


                      Andy Berman


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